Entrepreneur and "unemployed mother", Jen Manuele stops by the podcast to talk about having a lot of kids, DNA translocation, birth order and effects, drinking my Kool-Aid, "Up Until Now...", Brandnewnoise's Mr. Purple, sibling relationships, opening her own photography studio, Sally Loo's Wholesome Café, how good dogs are, student-teacher respect, her desire to flee to Mexico, wearing a hot sweating infant, moving across the country to get more family time, permaculture, how she named her kids, exploring all of the religions, Frannie's goodbye to Hank, nostalgic smells, the way to cut an orange for optimal eating, and getting into a car accident on purpose to share a moment.